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Poster: Ganbachi Date: Aug 1, 2009 12:31am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Lone really alone Ranger

The fact that 'Enter the Lone Ranger' has been up here for a long time without any legal comeback is surely a good sign. It seems many of these companies are just bullying the public with legal loopholes. As I said before, if they are so precious about their trademarks they should have re-registered when they had the opportunity. They failed to, have seen other people using their product entirely legally and are now going "we want money for that, you can't use them" and getting their lawyers to find a way of stopping them. It's school playground antics. Why not just hold their hands up and say "our mistake", move on and make new product with their characters. It's not as if we're making a new Lone Ranger series to be broadcast worldwide - just fans legally sharing what is in the public domain.

This could move on to an anti-capitalism rant so I'll make this my last word on the subject before you all just think me mad!!!

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Aug 1, 2009 6:11am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Lone really alone Ranger

The first 17 eps of The Lone Ranger are PD (registered as published works and not renewed). The Eps are:

1.1. Enter the Lone Ranger (15 Sep 49)
1.2. The Lone Ranger Fights On (22 Sep 49)
1.3. The Lone Ranger Triumphs (19 Sep 49)
1.4. Legion of Old Timers (6 Oct 49)
1.5. Rustlers' Hideout (13 Oct 49)
1.6. War Horse (20 Oct 49)
1.7. Pete and Pedro (27 Oct 49)
1.8. The Renegades (3 Nov 49)
1.9. The Tenderfeet (10 Nov 49)
1.10. High Heels (17 Nov 49)
1.11. Six Gun's Legacy (24 Nov 49)
1.12. The Return of the Convict (1 Dec 49)
1.13. Finders Keepers (8 Dec 49)
1.14 The Masked Rider (15 Dec 49)
1.15 Old Joe's Sister (22 Dec 49)
1.16 Cannonball McKay (29 Dec 49)
1.17 A Message from Abe (5 Jan 50)

All contained 1949 copyright notices but were registered in 1950. When the renewals came up in 77/78 the ones mark 1949 were too late because of the copyright period starting at date in notice.

The character is trademarked. I believe the TM is owned by the Entertainment Rights/Classic Media company. A trademark's purpose is really only to protect a commercial brand. It is legal to use a trademark for descriptive purposes (eg to say what is on a DVD) provided that the general public is not confused as to the origin of the item. Trademarks cannot be used for extended protection of a public domain work. If you include something like:
"This original television program is a Public Domain product and the uploader is not licensed, authorised or affiliated in any way with the originating studios, producers or original copyright or trademark owners."
and name the Uploads
"EPISODE TITLE Starring Clayton Moore as The Lone Ranger"
Both you and IA are covered because you haven't confused anyone about the origin and you have only used the trademark in a descriptive sentence.

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2009-08-01 13:11:46